Curse

awry · Oct 10, 2009, 04:29 AM // 04:29

I think it would be interesting if it was possible go into the realm of the gods and fight them. Here are my ideas of what these bosses' builds should be, all of them have 20 attributes in every attribute:

Edit: In light of the bosses being too easy and or farmable...

Dwayna
[pre][Invoke Lightning] [Unyielding Aura][Word of Healing][Glimmer of Light][Aura of Faith][Peace and Harmony][Spell Breaker][Glimmering Mark][/build][/pre]
The near immortal, thunderbolt shooting god, dwayna. I took out smiting because I realized that smiting monks followed balthazar. Behold dwayna and its 800+ spike heal with aura of faith+unyielding aura and word of healing. Unyielding aura makes it so that if this boss doesn't die first, nothing dies.

Balthazar
[pre][Star Burst][Warrior's endurance][Focused Anger][Earth Shaker][Backbreaker][Enraged Smash][Shield of Judgment][Magehunter's Smash][/build][/pre]
Fire and rage. Say hello to kd hell. This is what pve monsters feel like when you use great dwarf weapon.

Melandru
[pre][Melandru's Arrows][Incendiary arrows][Shockwave][Melandru's resilience][Crippling Shot][Punishing Shot][Quicksand][Famine][/build][/pre]
Farm this guy. I dare you.

Grenth
[pre][Aura of the Lich][Shatterstone][Soul Leech][Animate Flesh Golem][Jagged Bones][Corrupt Enchantment][Lingering Curse] [Destructive was Glaive][/build][/pre]
Where is this guy going to get his corpses? Do you need to ask? Get to close to him and you'll see why is he the god of death.

Lyssa
[pre][Simple Thievery][Symbols of Inspiration][Visions of Regret][Tease][Illusionary Weapon][Energy Surge][Locust's fury] [Hex Eater Vortex][/build][/pre]
Yes lyssa has daggers. Yes locust's fury and illusionary weapon will work together, yes she will have 33% ias. And yes, there will be blood.

Are the gods wimpy now?

Lawliet Kira · Oct 10, 2009, 04:38 AM // 04:38

that would be fun actually, all 5 at one time would be a challenge....ban all pve only skills

..and maybe cons...now thats a challenge, also have 5 minions each with them and also an insane amount of health
unfortunately they arent gonna put anything cool like this in guild wars :/
should include abaddon in a humanoid form

^that was not sarcasm

give em better elites tho

/signed for this

Gift3d · Oct 10, 2009, 05:11 AM // 05:11

i like the idea of real bosses. not just glowy dudes that are a little better than regular monsters, i mean like kaanaxai, abaddon, etc.

but i imagine it wouldn't fit into the storyline as well (i don't pay attention to it just assuming) and if they ever do decide to add elite areas for all the other gods, it'd probably follow the same 10-quest format as uw and fow. i hope there's a lot of tough final bosses in gw2.

IronSheik · Oct 10, 2009, 06:26 AM // 06:26

/Rend on Dwayna

/VoR everything else.

And we can already fight Gods, i got served by abaddon.

If you want a hard enemy look up Mallyx, or Skitt Skizzle.

And the builds have no synergy whatsoever, even if they were all together, have 8 Monster-Only skills with the 5 gods together that could only be beat by flare, and we'll talk.

the pretender · Oct 10, 2009, 06:45 AM // 06:45

Hehe sweet idea but Perma and 600smites will find a way to make it pointless hehe!

subarucar · Oct 10, 2009, 06:50 AM // 06:50

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Originally Posted by IronSheik

And the builds have no synergy whatsoever, even if they were all together, have 8 Monster-Only skills with the 5 gods together that could only be beat by flare, and we'll talk.

I agree with the monster skills parts. Abbadon has then, Mallyx has them, Varesh has them, Shiro has them, etc, etc.

Also Dwayna needs Dwayna's Kiss, Melandru needs Melandru's Shot etc.

Gennadios · Oct 10, 2009, 06:51 AM // 06:51

GW bosses suck in general. It's always been more about getting to him than the extaul boss.

What to bosses have that normal enemies don't? Faster casting, faster recharge, extra pips of energy, lower hex duration, and more hitpoints.

Concidentally, all these things are what horribly GOREDEGINEs up mesmers in PvE. What's the point of shutdowns/e-denial when you can't shut down boss PvE skills, and the ones you can just recharge at increased speeds?

Thanks for that ANet.

Now, back to my Crybot.

Bill Clinton · Oct 10, 2009, 07:16 AM // 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gennadios

GW bosses suck in general. It's always been more about getting to him than the extaul boss.

What to bosses have that normal enemies don't? Faster casting, faster recharge, extra pips of energy, lower hex duration, and more hitpoints.

Concidentally, all these things are what horribly GOREDEGINEs up mesmers in PvE. What's the point of shutdowns/e-denial when you can't shut down boss PvE skills, and the ones you can just recharge at increased speeds?

Thanks for that ANet.

Now, back to my Crybot.

You're forgetting the important bit about double damage.

Marzipan Marci · Oct 10, 2009, 07:44 AM // 07:44

I like your idea, however, they will not make it. Two reasons:
-Anet has better things to do. Fixing bugs in Aion, making GW2, etc... Even a lil' Design-A-Weapon-Contest would be a big thing.
-Nowdays with all these PvE skills, nothing is hard. Even if these Gods had like one million HP, it would be still easy to kill them. Spiteful Spirit + Spoil Victor + Emphaty + Backfire + Pain Inverter + Visions of Regret... boom. And i think it would be possible to farm them with permasins

turbo234 · Oct 10, 2009, 09:25 AM // 09:25

lol that war build has some awful synergies.
shove drains all adrenaline, while battle rage ends if you don't use an adrenaline skill.
warrior's endurance charges up energy, with you wanting to use energy skills then battle rage would end.
also if this is a so called "god" build give him some deep wound

and i think they should be immune to dazed so you couldn't just fire a BHA and kill him the casters off in 4 seconds.

but i find it necessary to say this will never happen in gw and is better of going on gw2guru

Mitchel · Oct 10, 2009, 11:55 AM // 11:55

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Originally Posted by Marzipan Marci

I like your idea, however, they will not make it. Two reasons:
-Anet has better things to do. Fixing bugs in Aion, making GW2, etc... Even a lil' Design-A-Weapon-Contest would be a big thing.
-Nowdays with all these PvE skills, nothing is hard. Even if these Gods had like one million HP, it would be still easy to kill them. Spiteful Spirit + Spoil Victor + Emphaty + Backfire + Pain Inverter + Visions of Regret... boom. And i think it would be possible to farm them with permasins

Since when does Anet do Aion?

Eragon Zarroc · Oct 10, 2009, 11:56 AM // 11:56

definitely would be cool to have a new elite area in which u can fight the gods or even just one god

u can only enter if u have god walking amongst mere mortals

lol, maybe not ;-)

subarucar · Oct 10, 2009, 12:00 PM // 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marzipan Marci

I like your idea, however, they will not make it. Two reasons:
-Anet has better things to do. Fixing bugs in Aion, making GW2, etc... Even a lil' Design-A-Weapon-Contest would be a big thing.
-Nowdays with all these PvE skills, nothing is hard. Even if these Gods had like one million HP, it would be still easy to kill them. Spiteful Spirit + Spoil Victor + Emphaty + Backfire + Pain Inverter + Visions of Regret... boom. And i think it would be possible to farm them with permasins

A-net do not make Aion. Therefore they do-not fix Aions bugs.
A-net have a live team dedicated to GW1, there are people to make this kind of thing. It's just there are far moe important things that need fixed/added atm.
Good luck farming them with a permasin, especially with that superhealing monk and the Illusionary Weaponary on the mesmer.

Added: Using 8 elite skills isn't the best idea, there are bosses in the game I fear more that only have a single elite skill.

Also remember the bosses would really be more than one profession.
E.g Grenth is Water Magic, Necromancer, Wind Prayers Dervishes and possibly even Rits IIRC

Reformed · Oct 10, 2009, 12:51 PM // 12:51

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Originally Posted by IronSheik

If you want a hard enemy look up Mallyx, or Skitt Skizzle.

This.

If you just want something obnoxiously hard then start with Mallyx's standard monster skills. Give him something to strip weapon spells, stop shouts/chants/echoes and a mass Gaze of Fury type skill. Oh...and change Banish Enchantment to type "skill". That should round out his curious inability to deal with expansion professions.

Point being unless they start where Mallyx left off or use some exotic environmental effects it will be a pushover of a fight. About the OPs bars...no one has thought of Signet of Humility yet? Way too easy to shut down an all elite bar.

Šiljo · Oct 10, 2009, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Add Grenth to UW and Balta to FoW after completing all the quests, so u have to beat them to get the chest.

Rest can't be put anywhere.

Hells Fury · Oct 10, 2009, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Yerk Plopsquirt
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Yerk_Plopsquirt
The ultimate mending boss god of all should be final boss god after defeating those.

Winterclaw · Oct 10, 2009, 05:09 PM // 17:09

/not signed

If something like this happens it's because of powercreep gone awry

*glares at NF

Red Apple · Oct 10, 2009, 05:19 PM // 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

/not signed

If something like this happens it's because of powercreep gone awry

*glares at NF

Agreed.

I dislike the idea of fighting the gods it wouldn't anywhere in the game-lore, and if you want challenges try fow, uw, Mallyx, or any other bosses with no conventional builds.

EDIT: Forgot to mention the Cthulhu like foe Rotscale on Majestry's Rest.

awry · Oct 10, 2009, 06:00 PM // 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

/not signed

If something like this happens it's because of powercreep gone awry

*glares at NF

HAHAHA

Yeah Balthazar's bar is pretty bad but that's because I couldn't decide what weapon to give him and so I didn't use any of those better weapon elites. If you guys have some suggestions for builds for the gods, post them. I also like the idea about grenth having water magic, and assassin skills, i forgot about them :P It shouldn't be that hard for anet to implement imo. IN any case if they wanted they could just use the avatars as models for the bosses, just supersize them and then make them a quest using a pre-exisiting location.

Vdawg1337 · Oct 10, 2009, 06:48 PM // 18:48

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Originally Posted by Hell Darkblight

Yerk Plopsquirt
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Yerk_Plopsquirt
The ultimate mending boss god of all should be final boss god after defeating those.

lol what sort of boss name is Yerk Plopsquirt.
Anyway /notsigned because anet needs to do more important things atm, /possiblesigned for guild wars 2.